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Why Great Leaders Still Feel Fear (And Why That's Good) with Rich Lyons | Special Episode


What does it take to build a business from the ground up, expand internationally, and lead through uncertainty without losing sight of your people?


In this episode of Owning Your Legacy, Gail Scott sits down with entrepreneur and author, Rich Lyons to discuss insights from his book, “Life Is Sales”, and the sales philosophy that helped him build and sell a $55 million company. Rich shares the real story behind launching a London office, the challenges of scaling a business across continents, and the leadership lessons he learned about perseverance, communication, business growth, and emotional intelligence along the way.


The conversation also explores an often-overlooked aspect of leadership: understanding your emotions. Rich opens up about fear, anger, self-awareness, and how emotional intelligence can become a leadership superpower. He explains why great leaders learn to respond with intention, stay grounded through uncertainty, and continue growing both personally and professionally, even in their toughest moments.


Topics discussed include:

🦋 Expanding into new markets and starting from scratch

🦋 The "burn the canoes" mindset in leadership

🦋 Balancing conviction with business realities

🦋 Why leaders should overcommunicate during change

🦋 Lessons from building a business in London

🦋 Using emotional intelligence as a leadership tool

🦋 The difference between intentional and reactive anger

🦋 Why fear is part of every growth journey

🦋 Reading the room through self-awareness

🦋 Key lessons from building and selling a $55M company


If you enjoyed the episode please share it with others, and rate, review, and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more about me and how I am Owning My Legacy, you can find me on Instagram @LauretteRondenet, and YouTube @owningyourlegacy.

 
Elena ScheinerSeason 13